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Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.07.05 06:30:00 - [1] Edited by: Ranger 1 on 05/07/2011 06:31:20 There has never been a statement made that some self entitled idiot couldn't rip imaginary holes in. People like you are EXACTLY why these people ended up having to protest in the first place. The flow of pure crap that flows from these forums, from people like you, has changed these forums from a useful feedback system into a complete farce. Small wonder CCP doesn't pay as much attention to it as they used to. Get lost. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.07.05 06:35:00 - [2] Originally by: AkJon Ferguson While we're visiting other forums, Hratli Smirks said it very well: "I'm still not resubbing hth. The ultimate problem here is no matter what CCP does or says I don't trust them to communicate their intentions and I don't trust them to fix their game. I came to this conclusion when people were wondering if Mittens was going to tell us to pull up stakes and move to WoT or something when he came back from Iceland and I realized that what was going to happen was the CSM was going to come back and say "its all cool guys its just CCP is bad at talking to human beings they don't intend to add game-affecting MT and they are serious not like when they said they weren't going to add MT last year. CCP has a lot of very smart people running it now despite years of evidence to the contrary don't worry they understand." This game has been ****ed up to various degrees since Dominion, which was roughly 18 months ago. If they haven't been able to solve the problems that players pointed out before they even introduced them into the live game in 18 months, or even look like they understand the problems, then I'm not sure why I should continue to pay them (or rather facilitate someone else paying them on my behalf) on good faith that Some Day they will bring it all together in the fabled fix expansion. I mean these are the guys who watched a video of 25 titans DDing a carrier and said 'well that is just obviously unacceptably hilariously broken guys dont worry we see it' and their response was to make it so every titan could DD a carrier. Ultimately me staying in this game just encourages them to keep being useless." Actually, #11 (on the list this thread was supposed to be about) just occurred to me. A big part of the problem is that protesters weren't all posting in the same place. If there's a next time, hopefully we can decide on a common communication channel. Yes, and hopefully it's somewhere else. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.07.06 23:41:00 - [3] Quote: "I would like virtual goods sales in EVE. In fact, IÆd like to sell a lot more than vanity items." Except for the fact that there are a large number of options that do not fall neatly into either the "vanity" or the "pay to win" categories. Examples of those items/services have been touched on countless times in other threads. Some would be fine, others would require discussion, while others still (while not pay to win) would not be acceptable as they infringe on area's that either would be detrimental to the game in other ways or should be included under the basic subscription fee. These would be the grey area's referred to in their statements, and a strong point of interest to the CSM. To sum up, "I would like to sell more than vanity items" in no way equals "I want to capitalize on pay to win items". ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.07.07 00:01:00 - [4] Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson Originally by: Mara Rinn The entire publication is tongue-in-cheek humour. Read it again with that in mind and have a bit of a giggle. Then get back to work recognising that selling shirts and shoes for real money is not game-breaking. If you're going to spread lies, spread them in another thread please? It's one thing to repeat lies already told by CCP, but now you're just making stuff up. From Hilmar's email (emphasis mine): "This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone." This should not come as a surprise to anyone ... except our customers. I don't think "tongue in cheek" is the correct phrase, however it is far from a lie. A couple of things to consider: 1: There has undoubtedly been more than one issue of Fearless that touches on this issue. 2: The title of the Fearless edition "Greed is Good?" conveys a strong impression that the popular understanding of the meaning of that phrase is questionable, that being that greed is all a company needs to survive (obviously referencing the popular quote from Wall Street). If you also take into consideration the fact that they have maintained from the very beginning that the articles contained within were requested to be written from a point of view not necessarily their own it becomes highly plausible that the issue was devoted primarily to over the top, Gordon Gekko-esque view points that serve to promote conversations in house about why the official company stance is diametrically opposed to such a stance. The title itself serves also as a reminder as to what the consequences can be for those that take the Greed is Good philosophy to heart (in Wall Street it ruins his life). Whether you take this interpretation to heart, or choose to only take it a face value, is a personal decision. But choosing to believe the articles were written to illustrate the points above certainly isn't an attempt to spread a lie. It is simply making a choice of whether or not to believe CCP's stance on why the articles were written to begin with. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.07.07 00:26:00 - [5] Edited by: Ranger 1 on 07/07/2011 00:26:41 Interesting way to illustrate my point. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.

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